Comments on: Gingrich support “collapses” in Iowa; Ron Paul in the lead — for now http://www.billdawers.com/2011/12/19/gingrich-support-collapses-in-iowa-ron-paul-in-the-lead-for-now/ Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:45:06 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: bill dawers http://www.billdawers.com/2011/12/19/gingrich-support-collapses-in-iowa-ron-paul-in-the-lead-for-now/#comment-9343 Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:45:06 +0000 http://www.billdawers.com/?p=1788#comment-9343 In reply to bill dawers.

Interesting piece here on the controversy: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57345702-503544/ron-paul-disavows-racist-newsletters-under-his-name/ Apparently some sources a few years ago revealed the name of the likely writer, but that guy denies it.

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By: bill dawers http://www.billdawers.com/2011/12/19/gingrich-support-collapses-in-iowa-ron-paul-in-the-lead-for-now/#comment-9341 Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:29:17 +0000 http://www.billdawers.com/?p=1788#comment-9341 In reply to sarah ginsberg.

I agree with many of Ron Paul’s policy positions, and I admire his stand against our involvement in Iraq from the outset. I’m just saying that he has not adequately explained how 1) someone working for him could publish such statements for so long and without his knowledge or 2) who this writer was. Do you know? Has he said? If he’s going to be a serious contender, he’s going to have to address these answers to a nationwide audience in the coming weeks.

These newsletters may be old news to you and to other core supporters, but they’re not old news to the vast majority of Americans. I had heard vaguely of his newsletters off and on for a year or so, but I never looked at any of the PDFs of them until the past week.

Happy holidays.

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By: sarah ginsberg http://www.billdawers.com/2011/12/19/gingrich-support-collapses-in-iowa-ron-paul-in-the-lead-for-now/#comment-9334 Tue, 20 Dec 2011 21:40:46 +0000 http://www.billdawers.com/?p=1788#comment-9334 so let’s say ron paul is a bigoted racist…his voting record, all the speeches he’s given the last 30 years are all totally opposed to his own beliefs. let’s say paul is a racist…but then contrast that fact with the racist “war on drugs” and the racist justice system that sends minorities to prison decidedly more often and for much longer than whites. Where does he exercise all this racism. The racist Ron Paul would put an end to systematic racism…he must be “batshit insane” like the neocons say since he acts against his conscience so often.

Kirchick manufactured the hit piece 4 years that rehashed this 20 year old nonsense. He never wrote them, didn’t know about them until years after they were written, since he was practicing medicine full time and there was an independent, paid editor managing it… and he speaks nothing like that. More importantly, while those may have been an issue before they were debunked when he was returning to Congress and people didn’t know him, he has been in the public eye for 22 years now, and his record and extensive library and youtube font of appearances and speeches are entirely unblemished by anything remotely approaching racism.

i’m sorry, but his supporters are going nowhere. When you base your philosophy on the nonaggression principle then from there the bright, vast and everlasting lights of reason take over. It cannot be reasoned by any of Ron Paul’s supporters that racism is acceptable, therefore Ron Paul’s supporters know the man is not a racist, because he espouses the same principle.

RP said, “Libertarianism is the enemy of all racism, because racism is a collectivist idea. You don’t have rights because you’re gay, woman or minority. You have rights because you’re an individual.”

Austin NAACP President Nelson Linder, who has known Ron Paul for 20 years, unequivocally dismissed charges that the Congressman was a racist in light of recent smear attempts, and said the reason for him being attacked was that he was a threat to the establishment. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OGhv3paNz6U#!

did ron paul call MLK a pedophile. the accuser debunks his own accusations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnkYpviuX8M&feature=player_embedded

actually, maybe you’re right-http://www.dynw.com/ronpaulisracist/

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By: bill dawers http://www.billdawers.com/2011/12/19/gingrich-support-collapses-in-iowa-ron-paul-in-the-lead-for-now/#comment-9326 Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:45:12 +0000 http://www.billdawers.com/?p=1788#comment-9326 In reply to sarah ginsberg.

The newsletters came out under his name for about a decade. I’m sure we’ll get more details on that timeline from a variety of media sources as people take a closer look at them. Check out this piece from The Atlantic today: http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/12/ron-pauls-shaggy-defense/250256/

If Dr. Paul doesn’t come up with some credible ways to explain these statements, his popularity will plummet even among his diehard supporters. That’s my prediction.

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By: sarah ginsberg http://www.billdawers.com/2011/12/19/gingrich-support-collapses-in-iowa-ron-paul-in-the-lead-for-now/#comment-9325 Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:34:12 +0000 http://www.billdawers.com/?p=1788#comment-9325 What statements in his past lead you to believe he is responsible for these words? You honestly think a man in his position would approve of what was written? The linked article is rife with flagrant and utter lies.

But way to pick up the old debunked corporate media distortions and run with them. The status quo is terrified to actually confront real issues with a man that bases his philosophy on principle…one that doesn’t have anything to do with races or groups, but with individuals. But keep championing the mainstream Keynesians as their “economic thinking” sends us into social cataclysm.

Does Mr. Morris listen to all the cool bands you like and write about?

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